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Review: Sette Razzo Frame

Posted by Jeremy Yang On May - 28 - 2009

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Product Tested:
Sette Razzo


Sette Razzo 29er frame in size Large (20″)

Website’s MSRP:
$199.98

Specs:
Material Full 7005 Alloy, Double Butted Main Triangle
Welding Tig Welding
Recommended Suspension Fork Travel 80-100mm
Headset 1-1/8″ Standard
Front Derailleur 31.8mm Clamp Type, Top Pull/Top Swing
Bottom Bracket 68mm, English
Rear Hub Spacing 135mm
Max Rear Tire Clearance 2.3″
Seatpost Size 27.2mm
Seat Clamp Size 31.8mm
Brake Mount IS 51mm Standard Disc
Available Sizes Small (17″/43cm), Medium (19″/48cm), Large (21″/53cm)
Color(s) Polished Aluminum
Weight 3.2lbs/1.5kg (Medium Size Avg.)
Warranty 5 Years

About Me:
6’1” 210lbs, 29 year old male. I’m a mountain biking enthusiast who enjoys XC riding.


Climbing on the Sette Razzo at Sycamore Canyon in Riverside.

Testing Grounds:
Marshall Canyon, Sycamore Canyon, Fullerton Loop, Bonelli … and many other trails in Southern California.

First Impressions:
The frame was light. The Large version came in at a pretty light 3.5 lbs which is comparable to frames 2 to 3 times the price. The polished look is nice and the graphics are understated. The welds are not pretty resembling toothpaste being squeezed out than the clean stack of dimes look. But for this price you can’t have everything and the bike provides most everything else in spades.


Even with a non-bling build (bb5, low end fsa cranks), the weight of the complete bike came out to 22ish lbs

Strengths:
The frame is light. Light enough to race. Light enough to be considered a light frame out there in 29er land. This means that even if you’re throwing heavy parts on it, which I most assuredly did, you’ll still end up with a relatively light bike. My SS build, other than the carbon fork and 200 gram saddle, was not an exercise in weight weenism and the bike still came out to a very decent 22ish pounds. I’m not a gram counter, but this bike is definitely the lightest non road bike I’ve ridden. Other then the fork and saddle, the whole build could lose a LOT more weight easily.

For a 7005 series aluminum frame, the ride is really pretty good. It is definitely not harsh like some other frames I’ve ridden before. Now, don’t get me wrong, you will not be mistaking this for steel, but it’s quite comfortable as long as you keep in mind that it is an aluminum bike. In one particular instance from this past weekend, I remember riding down a skinny singletrack trail with babyhead sized rocks. Immediately after that, the singletrack widened into doubletrack but went up through more rocks that were bigger. Both coming down and going up that part of the trail was, I wouldn’t say comfortable but, do-able. I didn’t feel totally beat up because of the rocks going down or up.


Sette Razzo enjoying the fun singletrack at Bonelli.

The Razzo has held up very well under me. I’m 210lbs but geared up with a full camelbak I go about 220-225 and this frame has been very good. I had no issues with flex which I would definitely have noticed since I have only run this frame as a rigid singelspeed. Climbing and descending would have definitely shown me some flex issues in this particular setup.

I also did not have any issues with the welds even as I’ve ridden it through some fun Southern California terrain. On a side note, riding rigid singlespeed has really been a revelation to me in the simplicity of a rigid, ss, mechanical disc brake bike. With less complexity, the bike really has less of a chance of having any issues. Just lube up the chain, check the tire pressure and I’m off.


Toptube plate… not sure what it is there for… maybe it lends more strength to the toptube/seattube junction.

The price is very competitive if not an absolute steal. Some people have bemoaned the fact that the Razzo costs so little compared to other 29er frames out there. I don’t. I’m all for more options and at this price the Sette Razzo really gives you a lot of options. This bike can be run in so many different ways from ultra light & fast race bike with really good weight weenie parts to a total beater with parts bin components used. The sturdy, comfortable hardtail frame can easily go high or low end or something else in between without feeling as if the frame didn’t match the purpose.

Weakness:
A frame at this price will have its cons. The first one most people don’t notice unless they look very closely is that the welds are not pretty. The welds are functional but they won’t be winning any beauty pageants nor will they be getting any nicknames like Ventana’s Electric Sex welds. Weld beauty, though, is way down the list of important factors when it comes to a bike frame purchase. As long as the welds hold and it has under the testing from this clyde over the last 4 months, I’m ok with it.


Rear tire clearance at the chainstays are a little tight with a 2.1″ Miaxxis Ignitor

The rear tire clearance is not 2.3”. I mounted up a 2.1” Maxxis Ignitor and it fits fine, but I’m not going to be able clear much mud at the chainstays. The seatstays had plenty of clearance for bigger rubber though. No problem for me as I don’t really want to run anything bigger than that on this bike but for those looking to build the Razzo into a burlier trail bike would want to consider this issue. Your milage may vary as I’ve seen some people run 2.25” rubber back there without issues.

Summary:
Simple, light, comfortable, stiff and priced very well, the Sette Razzo really has a lot going for it. These traits could also be one of the reasons why the Razzo is the #1 selling Sette frame. Small issues like beauty of the weld and rear tire clearance are really outweighed by the many pros of this excellent 29er frame. Get one while they’re still available.

For more info on the Sette Razzo, click here.

10 Responses to “Review: Sette Razzo Frame”

  1. oilcanaracer says:

    i looked hard and long at this frame for a single speed 29er. it had what i was looking for except for the rear tire clearence. i want to run as big as possible for steep climbing traction and comfort on 12-24 hour races.

    my quest contines, glad to hear your sette is working out.

  2. Dial Tone says:

    Hey Jeremy, what bar ends are you using? They look pretty long…

  3. Jeremy says:

    DT: They are really long. They’re from pricepoint.com: http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/15130-015_SETAB6-3-Parts-705-Bar-Ends/Sette-XE-Curved-Alloy-Bar-Ends.htm

    I never used bar ends before so I thought I’d give them a try and the price was right. I bought the long version mainly because I wear XL sized gloves but they’re definitely too long for me. I could definitely go with something shorter. I’ve been told I can just cut these down a bit so I may try that next.

  4. Quinn says:

    This just might be the frame for me, Thanks Jeremy,

    Oh and the welds- big fat and ugly = more metal, I see that is a good thing. :-)

  5. Keith says:

    Jeremy,
    This is a great build. What is the stand over height with the 2.1 tires?
    Thanks,
    Keith

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  7. Daniel says:

    Awesome bike. Just picked one up myself. What gear ratio are you running atm. Looks like 32 in front but not sure about the back.

  8. Jeremy Yang says:

    daniel: you’re right: 32 up front, 20 out back.

  9. daniel says:

    Sweet.. My setup is similar to yours but I have suspension forks. Not sure if you already know this but 34×20 and 32×18 is suppose to be our magic gear ratio. Haven’t tired it since I don’t have a 34t or a 18t.

  10. daniel says:

    oh and you need a half link. Might give it a try so i can lose the tensioner.

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