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Review: Sette Razzo Frame

Posted by Jeremy Yang On May - 28 - 2009

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Product Tested:
Sette Razzo


Sette Razzo 29er frame in size Large (20″)

Website’s MSRP:
$199.98

Specs:
Material Full 7005 Alloy, Double Butted Main Triangle
Welding Tig Welding
Recommended Suspension Fork Travel 80-100mm
Headset 1-1/8″ Standard
Front Derailleur 31.8mm Clamp Type, Top Pull/Top Swing
Bottom Bracket 68mm, English
Rear Hub Spacing 135mm
Max Rear Tire Clearance 2.3″
Seatpost Size 27.2mm
Seat Clamp Size 31.8mm
Brake Mount IS 51mm Standard Disc
Available Sizes Small (17″/43cm), Medium (19″/48cm), Large (21″/53cm)
Color(s) Polished Aluminum
Weight 3.2lbs/1.5kg (Medium Size Avg.)
Warranty 5 Years

About Me:
6’1” 210lbs, 29 year old male. I’m a mountain biking enthusiast who enjoys XC riding.


Climbing on the Sette Razzo at Sycamore Canyon in Riverside.

Testing Grounds:
Marshall Canyon, Sycamore Canyon, Fullerton Loop, Bonelli … and many other trails in Southern California.

First Impressions:
The frame was light. The Large version came in at a pretty light 3.5 lbs which is comparable to frames 2 to 3 times the price. The polished look is nice and the graphics are understated. The welds are not pretty resembling toothpaste being squeezed out than the clean stack of dimes look. But for this price you can’t have everything and the bike provides most everything else in spades.


Even with a non-bling build (bb5, low end fsa cranks), the weight of the complete bike came out to 22ish lbs

Strengths:
The frame is light. Light enough to race. Light enough to be considered a light frame out there in 29er land. This means that even if you’re throwing heavy parts on it, which I most assuredly did, you’ll still end up with a relatively light bike. My SS build, other than the carbon fork and 200 gram saddle, was not an exercise in weight weenism and the bike still came out to a very decent 22ish pounds. I’m not a gram counter, but this bike is definitely the lightest non road bike I’ve ridden. Other then the fork and saddle, the whole build could lose a LOT more weight easily.

For a 7005 series aluminum frame, the ride is really pretty good. It is definitely not harsh like some other frames I’ve ridden before. Now, don’t get me wrong, you will not be mistaking this for steel, but it’s quite comfortable as long as you keep in mind that it is an aluminum bike. In one particular instance from this past weekend, I remember riding down a skinny singletrack trail with babyhead sized rocks. Immediately after that, the singletrack widened into doubletrack but went up through more rocks that were bigger. Both coming down and going up that part of the trail was, I wouldn’t say comfortable but, do-able. I didn’t feel totally beat up because of the rocks going down or up.


Sette Razzo enjoying the fun singletrack at Bonelli.

The Razzo has held up very well under me. I’m 210lbs but geared up with a full camelbak I go about 220-225 and this frame has been very good. I had no issues with flex which I would definitely have noticed since I have only run this frame as a rigid singelspeed. Climbing and descending would have definitely shown me some flex issues in this particular setup.

I also did not have any issues with the welds even as I’ve ridden it through some fun Southern California terrain. On a side note, riding rigid singlespeed has really been a revelation to me in the simplicity of a rigid, ss, mechanical disc brake bike. With less complexity, the bike really has less of a chance of having any issues. Just lube up the chain, check the tire pressure and I’m off.


Toptube plate… not sure what it is there for… maybe it lends more strength to the toptube/seattube junction.

The price is very competitive if not an absolute steal. Some people have bemoaned the fact that the Razzo costs so little compared to other 29er frames out there. I don’t. I’m all for more options and at this price the Sette Razzo really gives you a lot of options. This bike can be run in so many different ways from ultra light & fast race bike with really good weight weenie parts to a total beater with parts bin components used. The sturdy, comfortable hardtail frame can easily go high or low end or something else in between without feeling as if the frame didn’t match the purpose.

Weakness:
A frame at this price will have its cons. The first one most people don’t notice unless they look very closely is that the welds are not pretty. The welds are functional but they won’t be winning any beauty pageants nor will they be getting any nicknames like Ventana’s Electric Sex welds. Weld beauty, though, is way down the list of important factors when it comes to a bike frame purchase. As long as the welds hold and it has under the testing from this clyde over the last 4 months, I’m ok with it.


Rear tire clearance at the chainstays are a little tight with a 2.1″ Miaxxis Ignitor

The rear tire clearance is not 2.3”. I mounted up a 2.1” Maxxis Ignitor and it fits fine, but I’m not going to be able clear much mud at the chainstays. The seatstays had plenty of clearance for bigger rubber though. No problem for me as I don’t really want to run anything bigger than that on this bike but for those looking to build the Razzo into a burlier trail bike would want to consider this issue. Your milage may vary as I’ve seen some people run 2.25” rubber back there without issues.

Summary:
Simple, light, comfortable, stiff and priced very well, the Sette Razzo really has a lot going for it. These traits could also be one of the reasons why the Razzo is the #1 selling Sette frame. Small issues like beauty of the weld and rear tire clearance are really outweighed by the many pros of this excellent 29er frame. Get one while they’re still available.

For more info on the Sette Razzo, click here.

Popularity: 14% [?]

High Volume, Low PSI

Posted by Jeremy Yang On March - 26 - 2008

I’m returning to my higher volume lower psi days on the rigid 29er. With no upcoming races to train for and just fun riding on the horizon I’ve decided to go with increased comfort and grip at the expense of more weight, more rolling resistance and more noise.

For the last few months, the 29er has been set-up with a Maxxis Ignitors and a front suspension fork. I consider the Ignitor to be a mid-volume sized tire at 2.1 inches wide and a claimed weight of 705 grams which is neither light nor heavy in the 29er tire world. This setup has worked as a great race front tire in So. Cal. conditions with, in my opinion, an ideal blend of volume, low rolling resistance, grip and weight.

But since I’ve gone back to rigid and I’m not racing anytime soon I’ve decided that I’d like to add a little more comfort to the equation. Because of this I slapped on a Panaracer Rampage 29 up front. The Rampage is definitely a high volume tire. At a claimed weight of 800 grams the Rampage is getting a bit portly for my normal type of riding (think XC / light AM) but because I’m going rigid I’m willing to take the weight penalty for the ability to run a lower PSI and gain the comfort of the higher volume.


Panaracer Rampage 2.35″ of rubber = high volume

I was running my Ignitor at about the 35-ish psi for the races and fast training rides prior to the race but for the Rampage I set it at just under 25 psi which feels so much better. I’d like to run it even lower but changing tires on the WTB Laserdisc wheels are a HUGE hassle so I’m careful not to run it too low and be prone to pinch flats.

I was able to get in a quick shake down ride of the Rampage / eXotic carbon 29er fork setup with Moe & RL this morning. We rode a quick 7 miles which had only 1 half mile descent. Once I got on the trail I could instantly tell the new setup would be more comfortable than the Ignitor + eXotic carbon fork setup but I really knew this to be true on that mild descent. The eXotic carbon fork does a great job muting the tiny bumps on the trail. The Rampage does a great job of muting slightly bigger bumps. Combining them together meant more comfort for my hands. I can’t wait to ride some more on it.

Click here for info on the Panaracer Rampage.
Click here for info on the eXotic carbon 29er fork, which has been awesome under my 215 lbs.

Popularity: 6% [?]

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